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		<title>Comment on Can the president (or chair) move a motion at a meeting? by JUANITA</title>
		<link>http://masterofmeetings.com/index2/can-the-president-or-chair-move-a-motion-at-a-meeting/comment-page-1#comment-174</link>
		<dc:creator>JUANITA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 03:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My understanding is this: A person (secretary or treasurer) cannot move that the report they have just presented be accepted. Please let me know of the proper procedure.

thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My understanding is this: A person (secretary or treasurer) cannot move that the report they have just presented be accepted. Please let me know of the proper procedure.</p>
<p>thanks</p>
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		<title>Comment on Can the president (or chair) move a motion at a meeting? by JUANITA</title>
		<link>http://masterofmeetings.com/index2/can-the-president-or-chair-move-a-motion-at-a-meeting/comment-page-1#comment-173</link>
		<dc:creator>JUANITA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 03:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My understanding is this: A person (secretary or treasurer) cannot move that the report they have just presented be ccepted. Please let me know of the proper procedure.

thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My understanding is this: A person (secretary or treasurer) cannot move that the report they have just presented be ccepted. Please let me know of the proper procedure.</p>
<p>thanks</p>
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		<title>Comment on Does a motion need to be seconded? by Bill</title>
		<link>http://masterofmeetings.com/index2/does-a-motion-need-to-be-seconded/comment-page-1#comment-172</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 03:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It stands to reason that a motion needs to be seconded to allow discussion or debate on the motion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It stands to reason that a motion needs to be seconded to allow discussion or debate on the motion.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Taking minutes of a meeting on a laptop computer by Harry Waisbren</title>
		<link>http://masterofmeetings.com/index2/taking-minutes-of-a-meeting-on-a-laptop-computer/comment-page-1#comment-171</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry Waisbren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2010 05:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can very easily imagine that, in this day and age, 70% of minute takers do take their minutes directly onto a laptop, &quot;and would never go back to handwriting.&quot; A meeting&#039;s historical record can be so important, and a laptop helps in so many different ways, that purism just can not suffice as a rationale.

However, I find it particularly telling that the trick to taking minutes is &quot;to prepare in advance.&quot; This manifests itself in so many different ways, yet larger than examples like using the agenda to set up your format (much less bringing a laptop in the first place), the key I see is to take the craft of minute-taking seriously enough to achieve the full extent of its value.

Check out my review of the book &quot;Taking Minutes of Meetings&quot; for a discussion of why, and how, this craft can be so valuable:
http://www.qworky.com/blog/2010/04/qworky-review-taking-minutes-of-meetings/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can very easily imagine that, in this day and age, 70% of minute takers do take their minutes directly onto a laptop, &#8220;and would never go back to handwriting.&#8221; A meeting&#8217;s historical record can be so important, and a laptop helps in so many different ways, that purism just can not suffice as a rationale.</p>
<p>However, I find it particularly telling that the trick to taking minutes is &#8220;to prepare in advance.&#8221; This manifests itself in so many different ways, yet larger than examples like using the agenda to set up your format (much less bringing a laptop in the first place), the key I see is to take the craft of minute-taking seriously enough to achieve the full extent of its value.</p>
<p>Check out my review of the book &#8220;Taking Minutes of Meetings&#8221; for a discussion of why, and how, this craft can be so valuable:<br />
<a href="http://www.qworky.com/blog/2010/04/qworky-review-taking-minutes-of-meetings/" rel="nofollow">http://www.qworky.com/blog/2010/04/qworky-review-taking-minutes-of-meetings/</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Rescission of motions by jason</title>
		<link>http://masterofmeetings.com/index2/rescission-of-motions/comment-page-1#comment-166</link>
		<dc:creator>jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 03:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in some cases, recission motions are not valid for a period of time after the substantive motion has passed (eg for the rest of the same meeting; for the remainder of the day; etc).
also, in some cases, a recission motion is not in order until a motion to reconsider the substantive motion has been proposed and carried.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in some cases, recission motions are not valid for a period of time after the substantive motion has passed (eg for the rest of the same meeting; for the remainder of the day; etc).<br />
also, in some cases, a recission motion is not in order until a motion to reconsider the substantive motion has been proposed and carried.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Rescission of motions by The Master of Meetings - David Price</title>
		<link>http://masterofmeetings.com/index2/rescission-of-motions/comment-page-1#comment-155</link>
		<dc:creator>The Master of Meetings - David Price</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 03:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thankyou for your question Bill.
Rescission is always tricky in local government because there are so many local laws or rules or standing orders, some of which are illogical or not in keeping with &quot;standard practice&quot; regarding rescission.

So, my answer can only be general in nature since I don&#039;t know the specific rules the council operates under.
If the executive officer of a council has said that a notice to rescind is invalid, then it is reasonable for you to ask under which rule or by-law or standing order he or she makes that ruling. 

If the person involved was in the public gallery, that should make no difference but local government is full of strange rules.
You are quite right in your comment about denying a rescission motion as soon as a motion is passed. If action has already been taken, then the rescission is superfluous, but if the action resulting from the original motion has not been taken, then a rescission motion &lt;strong&gt;should &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;be in order.

There was a time in some local government when rescission motions were not allowed. This is because the process was abused and every single decision had a rescission motion moved against it - this just stopped the whole council actually doing anything. Removing the right to rescind however was going too far the other way.

Rescission is always tricky in local government however because you can and do get people who give notice of rescission for every motion they opposed and that is not fair or reasonable in anyone&#039;s view - except their own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thankyou for your question Bill.<br />
Rescission is always tricky in local government because there are so many local laws or rules or standing orders, some of which are illogical or not in keeping with &#8220;standard practice&#8221; regarding rescission.</p>
<p>So, my answer can only be general in nature since I don&#8217;t know the specific rules the council operates under.<br />
If the executive officer of a council has said that a notice to rescind is invalid, then it is reasonable for you to ask under which rule or by-law or standing order he or she makes that ruling. </p>
<p>If the person involved was in the public gallery, that should make no difference but local government is full of strange rules.<br />
You are quite right in your comment about denying a rescission motion as soon as a motion is passed. If action has already been taken, then the rescission is superfluous, but if the action resulting from the original motion has not been taken, then a rescission motion <strong>should </strong><em>be in order.</p>
<p>There was a time in some local government when rescission motions were not allowed. This is because the process was abused and every single decision had a rescission motion moved against it &#8211; this just stopped the whole council actually doing anything. Removing the right to rescind however was going too far the other way.</p>
<p>Rescission is always tricky in local government however because you can and do get people who give notice of rescission for every motion they opposed and that is not fair or reasonable in anyone&#8217;s view &#8211; except their own.</em></p>
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		<title>Comment on Rescission of motions by bill collier</title>
		<link>http://masterofmeetings.com/index2/rescission-of-motions/comment-page-1#comment-154</link>
		<dc:creator>bill collier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 02:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can a local council bylaw overrule the right to common justice? ie

Can an executive officer of a council tell a councillor his notice to rescind is invalid , because the person involved was in the public gallery . And had received notice or it had been acted upon.
If this is right, the moment the motion was passed it would deny natural justice of appeal</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can a local council bylaw overrule the right to common justice? ie</p>
<p>Can an executive officer of a council tell a councillor his notice to rescind is invalid , because the person involved was in the public gallery . And had received notice or it had been acted upon.<br />
If this is right, the moment the motion was passed it would deny natural justice of appeal</p>
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		<title>Comment on Casting Votes &#8211; when and how to use them by Deliberative votes &#124; Master Of Meetings</title>
		<link>http://masterofmeetings.com/index2/casting-votes-when-and-how-to-use-them/comment-page-1#comment-152</link>
		<dc:creator>Deliberative votes &#124; Master Of Meetings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 10:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Also see the post on casting votes [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Also see the post on casting votes [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on What are the main authorities or references for meeting procedure in Australia and New Zealand by payday loan</title>
		<link>http://masterofmeetings.com/index2/what-are-the-main-authorities-or-references-for-meeting-procedure-in-australia-and-new-zealand/comment-page-1#comment-151</link>
		<dc:creator>payday loan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 21:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to thank the blogger very much not only for this post but also for his all previous efforts. I found masterofmeetings.com to be extremely interesting. I will be coming back to masterofmeetings.com for more information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to thank the blogger very much not only for this post but also for his all previous efforts. I found masterofmeetings.com to be extremely interesting. I will be coming back to masterofmeetings.com for more information.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Should husband and wife serve together on the same board or committee by Eddie Teh</title>
		<link>http://masterofmeetings.com/index2/should-husband-and-wife-serve-together-on-the-same-board-or-committee/comment-page-1#comment-149</link>
		<dc:creator>Eddie Teh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 13:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have a committee of six at the moment; husband and wife would make up a third of any vote. They even feel they have the &quot;power&quot; to get most things through, especially in intimi-dating other members. Husband and wife should not be allowed to serve in the same committee!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have a committee of six at the moment; husband and wife would make up a third of any vote. They even feel they have the &#8220;power&#8221; to get most things through, especially in intimi-dating other members. Husband and wife should not be allowed to serve in the same committee!</p>
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